[EVA] Concurrency tangent (WAS: Alternate Rei on DVD cover)

SSD sailorstardust at evageeks.org
Wed Feb 3 17:30:32 EST 2010


>By having him escape into an unreal void, it sends a message that no,
Shinji isn't back in reality.

Shinji isn't back in reality YET, yes.

>Honestly, I feel that Anno refined what Instrumentality means and is after
the TV series aired into the form that we're more familiar with, as you'll
note that EoE doesn't bring up the "holes in your souls" argument at all.
But I'm only concerned with what aired on TV, not what we bring to the table
from  later revelations.

Do you mean the DC episodes don't count for anything? Because visually and
otherwise they help explain certain things in EoE.

>The TV ending has Shinji as just another person undergoing the process,
while the movie has Shinji observing the process but not part of it.

Shinji is part of the process of Instrumentality in both endings: Throughout
EoTV of course, and then in EoE, he experiences the breakup lines and
live-actions sequences, both which are brief but Instrumentality proper.

If he wasn't experiencing Instrumentality in EoE, he wouldn't ask Lilith
what was going on and saying how it's not right.

*EB:* I thought that was the reason Lili translated those (IIRC, she said as
much somewhere. I could be remembering wrong), but no idea. Regardless, it's
best to just take what the script of the series or any supplemental
materials tells us. Drafts can help in terms of insight into what was, but
aren't all that useful unless part of what's in a draft makes it's way into
the final product (With EoE, Asuka kicking down her grave marker in Last A,
for instance, which helps imply Shinji was alone for some time and that he
DID put up a memorial).

*V:* My opinion of the ending(s) is that the series ending is more or less
occurring mentally (the character's thoughts/feelings--insight we don't get
too much of in the movie ending--that sort of thing) for the characters
while EoE is what's actually occurring physically or metaphysically for
them. I've felt this was the case for quite some time.

The only other thing I can say is I'm glad that on EML, the debates are only
about "Instrumentality is rejected in both endings: Yes or No?" compared to
Evageeks where a handful of members (3 or so) actually argue that Shinji and
the cast in the TV ending transcended into some higher plane of existence or
some such weirdness, something that clearly isn't an option!

The only choices with Instrumentality is that it's accepted (and thus people
lose their individuality, staying as a unified being forever) or that it's
rejected (and people one by one can decide to return to Reality. If they
don't return, they stay as LCL in the LCL Sea since individual souls have
nothing to merge with once 3rd Impact ends).

-- 
Sailor*Star*Dust/SSD
http://www.darkscribes.org/author/Sailor+Star+Dust
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