[EVA] Concurrency tangent (WAS: Alternate Rei on DVD cover)
(critique on V, again)
V V
frumious99 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 2 08:40:53 EST 2010
Many of the fanboys were lucky enough to have information that is long out of print; i.e. Jaffe could have read the theatrical booklets more closely, but he didn't; he skimmed them. That doesn't "belong" to North American fans, that's original information from Japan, cited. I increasingly realized that their major claim to "expertness" was that they have access to information I don't (Rare Anno interviews they refuse to share, etc.) -- hording those things doesn't make one "an expert" - much less am I "reusing" things they came up with - they drastically misinterpreted it.
To again use the - frighteningly accurate - parallel with LOTR fandom:
1 - the hippie-fans from the 1960's did accuse the later fans of "stealing something we came up with!" - no, Tolkien wrote the damn book, and later people like Shippey and Fonstad just took the same source material and went a different route.
Have you ever seen me quoting off the personal essays Aaron & Co put under "written statements" for...posterity? I disagree with much of what they said; that's all they "created" - simply sitting on Anno interviews doesn't make someone "an expert", particularly when they were misinterpreting them or twisting them to odd ends. That isn't "actual work" but rather "I was lucky enough to be around early enough that I have some interviews that are out of print now" -- and I'm increasingly closing the gap in that regard.
2 - the hippie-fans from 1960's LOTR fandom, who literally thought the show was about pot-smoking and the Vietnam draft, yelled at later fans that "how dare you force me to accept your views on the show as fact!" -- so much as possible, I"m trying to cite things based on EVIDENCE and piece them together - vs "I strongly believe in this...thus Rei wants to date me!"
And where are the LOTR hippie-fans *now*? :)
the goal of "The ReVolution of Eva" is a "recourse to authority"; again, just like LOTR, we're going to actually try to base things on official sources and creator interviews, etc. And the more I use that approach, the more I - and other people - find that the show was never actually that complicated, it just got hyped up as "the series no one understands"
--V
"I'm pleased to meet you and I hope you guessed my name,
but what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game"
--- On Tue, 2/2/10, EB <marestes at gmail.com> wrote:
From: EB <marestes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [EVA] Concurrency tangent (WAS: Alternate Rei on DVD cover) (critique on V, again)
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 12:36 PM
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:27 PM, V V <frumious99 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> one could easily say that the "experts" of the past 14 years, far from
> being objective - Napier, Jaffe, et al - were simply pushing their own,
> non-objective, interpretations on everyone else.
>
Objective and non-objective is highly subjective.
> I've at least got as much right to promote my explanation of the series as
> the fools who passed off their interpretation as fact for years
That I can agree with, just like how every other fan has as any right to
approach the fandom as they see fit, be it by analyzing, over analyzing,
writing fanfiction, or collecting doujinshi, otherwise, who are you to
discredit and yet demand not be discredited?
> I'm *trying* to base things on "fact" again", not the ol' "every theory is
> correct and its an ink blot" routine.
>
You're trying to make everyone conform to *YOUR* groupthink, something *YOU*
always accused Aaron, Rachel and everyone at EGF of doing.
Hello irony.
> But putting that aside....<snip>
>
That still doesn't answer Peter's question regarding the ending, instead, as
always, when someone dares question the validity of your point of view you
do everything BUT defend it with facts, instead you call out on the
"experts" you loath so much, on the "pretentious, elitist fanboys" yo
publicly hate yet so secretly take information from; you are a plagiarizing
work in progress, too lazy to do proper research, and to presumptuous to
think you could be wrong.
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