[EVA] _Terminal Dogma_
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frumious99 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 19 09:52:32 EST 2009
In other words, a small elite cabal of people who are "trusted users" (your "Friends" from Otakon like BobBQ) essentially Blackballed me, and you caved.
"not using google" was insane: I'd try to start up new discussions and Rachel would tell me to necrobump threads from 2005...or even if I DID do that, (i.e. the MIsato and Shinji in episode 23 debate) she'd lock them again.
Googling such Eva-specific terms led TO there.
You guys seem to have not grasped that....Eva fandom is going to be bigger than the dozen people who've been around since 2003 on your site, and that YES you have to explain things over and over again as new people come; in Lord of the Rings fandom, we ENDLESSLY have to repeat the "do balrogs have wings" debate to new people....because we like helping them.
You decided "we're finished" after the big forum war of Christmas 2005, and for the past four years decided that "nothing new is happening, lets just focus on our fanfiction...because it personally makes us happy!"
Well it doesn't make me happy, nor ALOT of other new people, that you stopped trying to explain the show to other people.
You guys turned into such a High School Clique, such a Treehouse Club, that its frightening.
--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu> wrote:
From: Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu>
Subject: Re: [EVA] _Terminal Dogma_
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 3:01 PM
We have banned people in the absense of both Rachel (School) and Drinian
(Traveling), we don't require every single admin to chime in, simply the
ones who are currently active. So when you were banned, and I wasn't
around, I was not consulted because I wasn't hands-on. And ultimately,
that's how it goes, and there's nothing wrong with it. I wasn't happy
with Zugswang being unbanned, but I accepted it because I wasn't there to
voice my opinion. It's a system that encourages involvement, and it
works.
I'll have you know, Rachel was NOT the one to put forth the ban. She was
actually one of the last to vote "Yay". The last straw WAS failing to use
Google, which you had been warned of very strongly, but it was the last
straw of a lot of friction you caused in the forum, to the point that some
admins got PMs on a daily basis about users having problems with your
posting behavior. You weren't banned for any single action, but the sum
total. Rachel did push the button, but everyone else shared the opinion
of "Good riddance". I was the only one who expressed dissent, but I
didn't know the full story. Now that I do, I agree, "good riddance".
At some point, you're going to have to ditch this superiority complex.
The world is a collaborative one, there is no place for people who can't
play nice with others.
--Aaron
> What's really "a fabricated lie" is that Rachel in any way consulted you
> about throwing me off; the entire start of the fighting was that she
> hadn't
>
> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Aaron Clark <aaronc1 at umbc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [EVA] _Terminal Dogma_
> To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list."
> <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 1:12 PM
>
>> What has changed in the past year since you sent that message? I mean,
>> what reforms happened? There was no improvement in the abusive mods
>> situation, and the projects aren't advancing either.
>
> I stopped listening to you, got involved, and realized that you had filled
> my head with nonsense. Eva Geeks is not Rachel's personal playground. We
> work as a team. We make decisions as a team. The fact that we discuss at
> length and ban people like you by unianimous concensus is proof of that,
> as is the fact that Rachel is capable of taking four months off from the
> site to pursue a degree. You don't get it, because you're still trying to
> prove a misguided notion that you were the victim in all of this.
>
>> basically because Rachel usurped his own forums and
>> website out from under him, and told him in private who was really
>> holding
>> the reins.
>
> Even when I was disappointed with how Eva Geeks shaped up, I never felt
> this way. I never felt tricked. Maybe a little misled, in terms of the
> progress that would take place. But Rachel NEVER told me "who was holding
> the reins", that's a totally fabricated lie.
>
> --Aaron
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