[EVA] Gender analysis in the series, vis a vis Asuka and Misato [Critique]

V V frumious99 at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 13 09:02:19 EST 2009


"you should look beyond your pale mask and actually think on the word."

given that "molution" isn't a word, i'm honestly asking what you mean by "remolution"; if its a reference to something you're not making yourself clear.

does it really bother you that much that I dress like my screename?

for 14 years we've had fools like Sean McCoy or the other fanboys, showing up to panels in suits and ties and then rambling about their own fanfiction.

I've inverted this by not even trying to emulate this, dressing in full-on V for Vendetta mode...then proceeding to tell them the truth, based on sourced answers from the guidebooks.

The V costume - amongst diverse other reasons - is sort of my way of holding up a sign saying "was the only reason people believed the fanboys all these years...because when they went to panels, they "cosplayed" in their own way?  They "cosplayed" by trying to dress up as professors and professionals, when they're just random fans?

It's my way of pointing out the Emperor is Naked:  I'm not even trying to "look the part" because I'm not trying to dupe the audience into believing me because I'm some sort of authority figure.

Meanwhile, if I was just in plainclothes, people might not have realized just how different my message is; they've seen many Eva panels, and outwardly I was afraid they'd think I was "just another guy"

Because you see, people need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy, and I can't do that as a man. As a man, I'm flesh and blood. I can be ignored, I can be destroyed. But as a symbol … as a symbol, I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting.

--- On Sun, 12/13/09, EB <marestes at gmail.com> wrote:

From: EB <marestes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [EVA] Gender analysis in the series, vis a vis Asuka and Misato  [Critique]
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 8:30 AM

I will honestly like to watch if you are using the plural "we" or the royal
"we"; so far your grandiose and verbosity leave me to believe this is more
of a sales pitch than an actual intent.

*Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name, but what's puzzling you is
the nature of the game *seems to be your battle cry, but quotes don't make
the man, neither does a cape or a mask, it's the ideas that shape you, the
ideas that make you, and the ideas that actually make someone look at you
and say "he might be right; there's much more than this." So far, your
liberal use of quotes, as well as your intention of taking after comic book
characters to try and ascertain your identity of self  speak more of an
embittered fan than a serious scholar; I guess effective rhetoric is not one
of your fortes, so instead you need to rely on theatricality, smokes and
mirrors; have you not noticed that when I started talking about Kimimaru it
was in the context of how the Gender roles of Asuka and Rei were taken into
context given this specific thread, followed by an explanation of how one
fan can truly become a figure head that can transcend the boundaries of land
and language?

You have instead focused on your own vision of what makes this reprehensible
in your quest of "one Eva", completely forgetting the fact that we are
talking about how Eva shaped conventions; you are simply repeating and
rehashing your own words without actually bothering to discuss this
theme. As it is, your intent will be flawed an incomplete if you try to
expunge the inherent sexuality present in Evangelion, but I guess you will
simply overlook it and look at it like "Anno trolling fans"

Good luck with your REMOlution; but I honestly think that if your attempt is
to try and be a new voice of theory and analysis in Eva, you are lacking in
the subtlety of actually analyzing and interpreting Eva.

As for your questions:

1. you should look beyond your pale mask and actually think on the word.

2. I am actually not in favor or opposed to Aaron or Reichu or Jonlin or
anyone else's interpretation, however I do give them the validity of doubt
simply because they, when compared to you, actually bother to show proof,
and look for sources, whereas your questions are almost always that;
questions begins others to answer without you bothering to cite your own
point of view.

3. the who is not the question, neither is the when, the why is simply a
smokescreen, the what is the prime question in everything, it's not Who, V,
it's What.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM, V V <frumious99 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ">I wonder who this "we" is, if you're the only one who posts under
> REMOlution
> of eva, even going into those sites you have forsaken to try and garner
> followers, which din't really happen AFAIK, next time you post there, your
> IP and posts will be treated as spam."
>
> 1 - I'm compelled to ask:  I have no idea what you're trying to make a pun
> on when you say "remolution"
>
> 2 - ....you've reached the point where you think the old
> EvaMonkey.com/EvaGeeks.org forums are *synonymous* with Eva fandom in its
> entirety?  How many people who...simply went to my convention panels, also
> actively post on EvaGeeks?   *Thousands* of people watched this show.  The
> funny thing is...it's like Aaron & Co honestly think I'm trying to
> like....convince Jon Lin or BobBQ to suddenly switch "allegiance" to me.
> I'm not trying to convince the handful of diehards from the old ANF days to
> suddenly follow me, just as theonering.net, by and large, saw no real need
> to "convert" the old hippie-fans.  We're starting over from scratch, and
> we're annoyed at how things have been run up to now.
>
> 3 - who indeed...who indeed.
>
>
>
>
>
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