[EVA] Gender analysis in the series, vis a vis Asuka and Misato

V V frumious99 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 12 15:59:10 EST 2009


Well...is rain wet?  Yes, I, V, have biting contempt for anything fan-made and particularly the pornographic things...regardless of if that one work is porn, you *defend* the porn, in general?

"The creators of ReDo established themselves"....prove it.  Cite a source, name a mainstream publication that mentioned it.  So far, the only justification I've seen is "people I personally know online like it"...which isn't exactly an objective sample group.

I thought the whole point was to figure out "Hideaki Anno's Evangelion"?

Nonetheless, I'm pleased to meet you and I hope you guessed my name,
but what's puzzling you, is the nature of my game"


--- On Sat, 12/12/09, theevamonkey at evamonkey.com <theevamonkey at evamonkey.com> wrote:

From: theevamonkey at evamonkey.com <theevamonkey at evamonkey.com>
Subject: Re: [EVA] Gender analysis in the series, vis a vis Asuka and Misato
To: "The english-language evangelion mailing list." <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:52 AM

Through your biting contempt for anything fan-made or pornographic, I see
you are once again taking things literally rather than finding the obvious
intended meaning by his statement.

Through their success with Re-Take, Kimigabuchi has established themselves
as a known producer of creative works.  I do not follow circles or
doujinshi, however I do know a few creators, Idurumi, Mogudon, and of
course Kimigabuchi.

His meaning was perhaps a bit liberal, but I don't see the need to
challenge his statement, which is to say, "they've made a name for
themselves"  which any observant fan can determine for themselves fairly
easily without question.

--Aaron

> prove that Redo is a household name
>
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, EB <marestes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: EB <marestes at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [EVA] Gender analysis in the series, vis a vis Asuka and
> Misato
> To: once at ix.netcom.com, "The english-language evangelion mailing list."
> <evangelion at eva.onegeek.org>
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 7:48 PM
>
> I wonder if "CLAMP" managed to successfully change some aspects of that
> mindset or not; after all, it's not unheard of that doujinshi circle
> artists
> suddenly go Mainstream. Takeshi Azuma, AKA Kimimaru, from Studio
> Kimigabuchi
> became a "household" name of sorts after doing Retake and is now doing a
> serialized series (I believe on Shonen Jump) under the name of Super
> Dreadnought Girl.
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, <once at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> It should be noted that the anime industry is as patriarchal as anything
>> else has been in Japan, and perhaps even more so than other sectors of
>> society; in a 1997 interview in TOKION, Anno described his industry as
>> "a
>> boy's club," saying that was the first thing you had to understand about
>> how
>> it portrayed women (he didn't exempt himself from this criticism, and I
>> give
>> him credit for trying to work within a female creator's viewpoint in
>> KareKano--with results everyone liked except the creator herself ^_^).
>>
>> I think it would be far easier for most people to name a prominent
>> female
>> manga artist than it would be for them to name a prominent female anime
>> director. Anno is of course himself married to manga-ka Moyoco Anno; it
>> really seems a shame that they haven't tried to make an anime together.
>>
>> --C.
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