[EVA] 1.01 - Misato is OK!

Fri May 30 23:39:21 EDT 2008

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM, RJN <rjn at beeb.net> wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Lewis" <83drew at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVA] 1.01 - Misato is OK!
>
>
>  I can see that.
>>
>> In all honesty I like this version better, both due to her actually
>> standing
>> up for Shinji when it counted,  and the handholding scene while Misato
>> shows
>> him Terminal Dogma was for me a lot more effective in showing their bond
>> than the 50's sitcom like scenes scattered through the first few episodes.
>>
>
> @I'm not sure what scenes you're thinking of. Car chat #, toothpicks #,
> beer breakfast #  Only comic scenes cut are the rock-paper-scissors cleaning
> chores chart, which was cute & which I missed & the air conditioning scene
> with Ritsuko, which could also have been left.

             Sorry, what I was getting at was that I found the scene in the
movie when Misato takes Shinji down to                Terminal Dogma, and
during Operation Yashima when she asks Gendo to let Shinji try
                       again more effective in conveying their relationship
than the comic scenes in general.

>
>
>> If Sadamoto is a barometer of Gainax's work ethic, though, I wouldn't
>> count
>> on seeing the next movie this year.
>>
>
> Luckily he's not the boss, & there's no Gainax involved.  Its Studio
> Kharma. :)

          Let's all take a moment and thank God for that. :)  Though I was
under the impression that most of the               Gainax heavies were also
involved in Kharma, not just Anno.  Oops.

>
>
> I reckon September will be movie 2's debut, as last was for YANA.  But they
> need to speed up to maintain interest. Eva is not as self-contained as the
> Star Wars movies (as an example).
> RJN
>
>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:45 AM, RJN <rjn at beeb.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Having watched the movie again & listened better (sound lower!), the
>>> initial awe worn off, maybe I was a bit harsh on Rebuild Misato.
>>> Kotono-san
>>> is still my Misato, but missing or replaced scenes elsewhere generally
>>> were
>>> prejudicing me to some extent.
>>> The audio is actually spoken & recorded similar to Star Trek movies after
>>> TV, especially TOS - less dialogue apart from where it counts, & backed
>>> by
>>> moving music.  And some of he music sound similar to John Williams's
>>> style
>>> (as does Crest/Banner of the Stars & Outlanders)
>>>
>>> 1.01 is easier to accept as an alternative *beginning* than EoE is,
>>> ending.
>>> Perhaps comparing the 2 Silent Mobius movies to 1.01 is a good analogy
>>> (Katsumi & Shinji are also not so different in emotion & background in
>>> several ways).  :)
>>>
>>> According to the trailer 1.02 is called "Destruction".  Is that Adam?  I
>>> always wondered how SEELE developed Evas in its arms race with NERV.
>>> Kaworo
>>> in Eva 06!  Is the new woman from SEELE?  I want 1.03 NOW!
>>> RJN
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <once at ix.netcom.com>
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [EVA] 1.01 DVD has movie script as extra
>>>
>>>
>>>  The film is very well done from a technical standpoint. Whereas CG is
>>>
>>>> often used in anime to do things more cheaply instead of more
>>>> creatively,
>>>> Gainax put imagination into their re-invisioning of the Angel Ramiel.
>>>> It's
>>>> almost as if its original geometric form inspired the idea that Ramiel's
>>>> true form is four-dimensional, and its rapid shifts and folds during
>>>> attack
>>>> underscores the notion the Angels are truly things outside normal human
>>>> experience. This, I feel, is an important artistic quality the Angels
>>>> should
>>>> have--something beyond being "giant monsters," but beings that inspire
>>>> fear
>>>> and awe because of their unearthliness.
>>>>
>>>> I see what RJN is getting at with the comparison of You Are (Not) Alone
>>>> to
>>>> Patlabor 2 and XIII vs. the first film and TV/OAVs, but I'd say the gap
>>>> in
>>>> feeling is even greater, in that story developments designed for the
>>>> period
>>>> (and pacing) of six TV episodes are now told in one movie. In theory,
>>>> there's not too much difference between those running times, but...I
>>>> actually noticed the change most with Shinji, rather than Misato. You
>>>> feel
>>>> he's made a little progress towards opening up by the end of #6 in the
>>>> TV
>>>> series, and I think the change in part is due to the different way the
>>>> scenes with Toji and Kensuke are handled in the movie (who after all,
>>>> are
>>>> Shinji's best chance at making "normal" friends).
>>>>
>>>> --C.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>  From: RJN <rjn at beeb.net>
>>>>> Sent: May 27, 2008 11:36 AM
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>>>>> Subject: [EVA] 1.01 DVD has movie script as extra
>>>>>
>>>>> Been delving more into the extras on my LE set, so far disc 01.  It has
>>>>> 2
>>>>> Japanese audio tracks 2/2.0 & 3/2.1 - the latter comes across louder on
>>>>> 2
>>>>> speakers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice menu, even has separate entry points for each company logo at the
>>>>> start, & there are quite a few chapter selections.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the main extra feature is that the Japanese script is on the DVD.
>>>>> You
>>>>> go
>>>>> forward or back in single pages by pressing the right or left button
>>>>> respectively. Like a slide show.
>>>>>
>>>>> No angles or subtitles unfortunately...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3rd watching, I still feel the warmth of the characters has mainly
>>>>> gone.
>>>>> Misato is snappier & more senior - like how she comes across in EoE.
>>>>> Shinji
>>>>> is voiced very well by Megami Ogata - bit more boyish sounding. Ritsuko
>>>>> &
>>>>> Kaworu sound the same.  Hikari sounds younger! - is her seiyuu still
>>>>> Iwao
>>>>> Junko?  Maya sounds a bit older too.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the beginning the sea & harbour around Tokyo 3 (maybe all Japan is
>>>>> red,
>>>>> as only the Antarctic is in Eva TV).  There is also a white body
>>>>> outline
>>>>> "painted" on the surface.  Is that where Rei in 00 fell, or a previous
>>>>> angel?  If the latter, it might explain the renumbering.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.01 is a well polished, fascinating work.  But like Patlabor 2 & 3 to
>>>>> Patlabor TV/OVA/movie 1 fans, its cold.  I hope 1.02 with Asuka will
>>>>> warm
>>>>> things up a lot - never thought I'd miss the egotistical brat so much!
>>>>> :)
>>>>> RJN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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