[EVA] Tangent: EoTV vs EoE (again?)
RJN
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Tue Jun 10 17:57:36 EDT 2008
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Subject: [EVA] Tangent: EoTV vs EoE (again?)
> >Well, IIRC they are not: the tv ending shows the Instrumentality process
> being completed and Shinji coming to the presented conclusions through it,
> whereas the movie ending has Shinji refuse and abort the process and
> return
> to reality.
>
> ..............You're kidding, right?
>
> Both have similar scenes and similar or the EXACT SAME LINES (I can
> copy/paste the dialog and time-stamp the similar scenes if it comes right
> down to it).
>
> Riddle me this: If Shinji was Instrumentalized in the EoTV ending, then
> why
> does he feel the need to say "Goodbye mother" via the Tel-op,
> something he *also
> says* in EoE before parting ways with Yui?
>
> If it's not the same ending just different ways of describing the events,
> (for
> example: 25&26 can be seen as what's happening mentally while EoE could be
> what's happening physically or metaphysically) then why is it in both
> takes
> on Episode 25('), we see Asuka inside Eva-02 at the bottom of the lake
> while
> Ritsuko and Misato are shot?
>
> Just because a Cardass trading card or the Renewal booklets claim
> Instrumentality in episode 26 was successful doesn't make it so. When
> you're
> looking at written information about a series vs the actual series itself,
> guess which one has higher authority, factually?
Depends who's written it, & whether they are/have the approval of Gainax.
IF the booklets claim Instrumentality was successful, & they come with Eva
DVDs, then they are part of the product & should be adopted as part of the
whole.
However, supposing Shinji did make the same decision in both TV & EoE. Maybe
in the TV ending he could alter reality later than EoE, or it just happened.
What is certain is that the Shinjis are different. TV Shinji is less
depressed & suicidal than EoE Shinji. What is said to both might be
similar, but the 2 versions outlook is different. TV Shinji is hurt & angry
& feeling betrayed. EoE Shinji is hurt, shell-shocked, suffering from
post-traumatic stress disorder - a much sorrier boy, more like Misato after
2I maybe.
The big difference between TV & EoE is that TV Shinji does not go through
the hell EoE Shunji does. After killing Kaworu TV Shinji goes into his
mental slump, Gendou & Rei do their thing & Complementation is set going,
So no production Evas, no mental attacks, it all happens more or less to
Gendou's plan. Shinji is in a better less scarred & easier-to-heal mental
state. The stills of dead Misato & Ritsuko in 25 are images from his mind -
vengeful/wishful thinking of resentment at the adults he rejected more than
actual images of what may have happened.
But TV Eva's ending is about alternate realities, including the Iron Maiden
2/Angelic days origin. Eva TV's ending is one, EoE another, & Rebuild will
be another. Etc.
RJN
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